Monday 25 July 2016

MOVIE MONDAY - BIR ÇOCUK SEVDIM

“Vulnerability is the essence of romance. It’s the art of being uncalculated, the willingness to look foolish, the courage to say, ‘This is me, and I’m interested in you enough to show you my flaws with the hope that you may embrace me for all that I am but, more important, all that I am not.’ ” Ashton Kutcher

We have finished watching a 2011 Turkish TV series called “Bir Çocuk Sevdim” (literally “A Child I Loved”, but it could be also interpreted “A Girl I Loved” or “A Boy I Loved”). This was a well-produced and well-acted show with a host of talented stars and supporting cast. There were veteran actors like Çetin Tekindor and Bülent Inal, but also new talents like Gulcan Arslan making her TV debut in the starring role and Hakan Kurtas, the young male lead. We particularly enjoyed the performance of Sefika Tolun as the mother, Arzu Gamze Kilinç as the politically active aunt, Onuryay Evrentan as the psychologically challenged sister and the very talented youngster Ilayda Alisan. The series is set in Istanbul and there are many gorgeous external shots of this beautiful city making for some memorable scenes.

The plot is familiar enough for watchers of TV soaps, but there are several interesting subplots, which are developed well. The unfortunate thing about it is that the series finished abruptly (presumably because the plug was pulled) and the last episode finishes with a couple of cliff-hangers that are not resolved. Despite of its good quality of production and acting, the ratings must not have been high enough, or I wonder if the political subplot was one of the reasons that it was stopped…

In a nutshell, this is what it’s about: Turan (Çetin Tekindor) and Esmahan (Sefika Tolun) have three children: Emine the unmarried oldest daughter (Onuryay Evrentan), Erdal, a silly son (Ulas Torun) and Mine, the younger daughter (Gulcan Arslan) who is beautiful, clever and romantic. They seem to have a happy lower middle class family, notwithstanding some issues arising from Emine being jealous of Mine and being unable to get married. Mine is in love with Sinan (Hakan Kurtas), a young man from a rich family. Mine gets pregnant with Sinan’s baby and his parents send him away to the USA before he finds out about it, while Mine thinks he has abandoned her. Although Sinan tries to contact Mine, Emine scuttles this attempt.

Mine’s father is furious with his young daughter and conscious of the family’s reputation confines her to her room. His boss, the successful car dealer Timur (Bülent Inal) falls in love with Mine and proposes marriage, promising to look after her and the baby and telling Mine he does not expect her to share his bed. She accepts and she moves into his house having a separate locked bedroom. Timur has a teenage daughter, Merve (Ilayda Alisan) who resents Mine moving in and who proceeds to make life difficult for her.

The two important subplots centre on Mine’s aunt Sureya (Arzu Gamze Kilinç) who has lost her political insurgent husband after he was arrested for anti-government activities, and Emine the older sister who everyone takes for granted and acts like a spinster. Sureya’s search for her husband (or his grave) raises the issue of political freedom in Turkey and this may not have made the series too popular with government agencies. Emine’s transformation from a “spinster” to a predatory “vamp” is quite interesting to watch, and she plays the psychologically disturbed woman magnificently. A third thread in the plot follows the relationship of Mine’s father and mother and how they fare with the strains of having to deal with Mine’s (and Emine’s!) lapses from “socially acceptable” behaviour.

The Ibsen triangle of Mine, Timur and Sinan is interesting to observe, as is Mine’s transformation from a simple, romantic young girl into a mature, realistic and deeper thinking woman. Sinan, as the victim of a plot to foil his love and separate him from his son, is perhaps the most innocent of all the characters, but he remains relatively immature and perhaps the most devoted to the ideals of romantic first love. Timur as the worldly older man who nevertheless is not only in love, but loves Mine, will stop at nothing to ensure her happiness. He nevertheless does believe in the maxim “all’s fair in love and war”.

We enjoyed watching this series but the last (78th) episode was a little disappointing in that it prepared the ground for a second season that was never made. As I have written here previously, the Turkish TV series industry is fiercely competitive and the rating system is uncompromising as to dictating the fate of the shows that progress to multi-season hits.

157 comments:

  1. But there is a scene where Mine is getting married to Timur. She is dressed in white and they both are very happy. Is this season 2?

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    1. Epiode 79 is the Last one

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    2. No,that was the ending of Season 1. No news whether there is going to be a season 2.

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    3. How thoroughly disappointing to know that there will not be a second series. I was so shocked after episode 78 finished & I realised this was it. Have been watching this series religiously every night for the past 3 weeks, taking me into the early hours of the morning. Do disappointed.

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  2. As far as I know it ends with their wedding and Merve's mum ( which we never see her identity) walking in the moment Timur is about to say "yes". Super disappointed to end here. It fet as a cliffhanger but there is no second season.
    It should be warned whwn you start seeing it. Its a great story nonetheless.

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    1. I just finished watching it and am so disappointed it stopped at episode 79. There are so many questions to be answered. Yes more than a few cliffhanges. Turkish dramas are well produced and the actors never disappoint.

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    2. I truly fell in love with this series.
      However, after watching 79 episodes and not able to watch season 2 is very upsetting.
      There’s so much more I wanted to see and sadly there’s no ending😪

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    3. I hope that there's a season 2. I really love rthis series and would like to to know what really happened at the wedding. We never heard Timur answer during the wedding, because an unexpected guest walked in on them. I definitely hope that there's a season 2.

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    4. Loved this show so much.Very disappointed I can't see more.. They must not make shows where they don't have a proper ending Yet they want you to watch their shows.... Get with program guys

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    5. loved this" series" yes i was dissapointed @ the ending" it snatched your heart" and fell to the floor! with a " blank" the wedding part the mystrious women? and not just that but '" sinan" did he die? hope not, his mom need to call police instead of hollering" ( i understand) but she is wasting time" his life! whoever shot him its like he knew his assilant" he said what you doing here?) it could hve been that little hussie" who loves him") or of course a" twist" like all movies do. that guy he beat up? of course a suspect") but i dnt think so? wht ever " please, please, make another surprised episode!! with the same " superb" actors, Im so hooked!!!! @ gonna be waiting and watching to hear" Praying!!

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    6. Keep checking Netflix. So disappointing. One of my favorite series I’ve watched it several times. Can’t even do that now.

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  3. I'm very disappointed too for the show not having season 2 is there a book?

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    1. Yes. I’m very disappointed too

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    2. I loved this drama, excellent on so many levels. Please bring on season 2!!!!

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    3. Please season 2 ....i love timur and mine...never sinan

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    4. Maybe if we write a letter to the producers to please do season 2...maybe they will know how much we love this series...

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    5. I love both Mine and Timur. Not a fan of Sinan. Timur is a real gentilmen.

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    6. Waiting for season 2.The way it ended there should be season 2.

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    7. I love sinan there love was first innocent and true.. separated by evil intentions!!

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  4. I have thoroughly enjoyed watching the first season and wish that there was a chance for the drama to continue; it would have been good to see that Sinan would achieve the happy ending he deserved after suffering so greatly.

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    1. Ugh, Sinan. Couldn't stand him. Maybe because I'm older and LOVED many of Timur's qualities. And I found him much easier on the eyes than I found Sinan. Hoping to find some more movies with him.

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    2. Unknown, I blame the writers who didn't make Sinan have any depth until the very end (so I figure a different writer weighed in on changing it)...he was only at first start struck, then an anger ball, then lost and almost not masculine. I wondered why the initial writer(s) had both he and Timur so isolated socially...seemed both were stunted. Why didn't Sinan have friends to check Mine for him?

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    3. Honestly i was super disappointed. Who falls in love with a man who stocks your every move, who locks you up twice, who makes horrible scandals just to have you. Its so gross and creepy. I do blame the writer as well sinan was not a bad guy and they tried to make him out to be awful. It had an awful ending. Super disappointed

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    4. Honestly i was super disappointed. Who falls in love with a man who stocks your every move, who locks you up twice, who makes horrible scandals just to have you. Its so gross and creepy. I do blame the writer as well sinan was not a bad guy and they tried to make him out to be awful. It had an awful ending. Super disappointed

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    5. I am also so disappointed.... that I have a stomach ache.... disgust by the ending after watching the crucifixion the lover boy Sinan and his endurance I was very sure that the writer would let the good wins the evil, the light eliminates darkness, and pure innocent love would overcome any sceme or walls of any kind, but the writer destroy a a masterpiece he build in 75 episodes to ruin his work in the last episodes. The writer or was switched, or died and another writer substituted him writing the finale, or the producers switched this delioguinal ending on purpose for a reason unknown, or some hidden hands missed with story... I still can't believe that I wasted so much energy to watch 79 ep. To have this awful finale... If Mine married Sinan and showed us them in 20 or 40 or 60 years from now... would be a wet dream come true and you would love Arslan Gulcan forever, I loved her innocence but to have chosen Timor in the end is a disgrace for the intelligence of the romantic series fans.... is not just disappointing... it's a SIN to have this finale and to ruin 75 intense episodes watching Gulcan Arslan and falling in love with her... too.

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    6. I totally agree with you! I still can’t believe she chose Timur 😫

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    7. Her life would be miserable with Sinan, because he became too impulsove.

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    8. plzz help me I can't find this series with english subtitles I try alot but can't find it with english subtitles plz tell me what should I do?

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    9. I don't know if this will interest you... I know where the episodes with Polish subtitles are, but you can change the language of the subtitles in the options.

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  5. I have thoroughly enjoyed watching the first season and wish that there was a chance for the drama to continue; it would have been good to see that Sinan would achieve the happy ending he deserved after suffering so greatly.

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  6. I is sad to say that I was truely disappointed withthis ending. Second time I watch a Turkish Drama series that ends like this. Is this normal. I so wanted to see a better ending. :(

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    1. I do not believe it ended, for some reason they did not complete production, possibly because of finances

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  7. I have some memories of having seen this production before Netflix got it, and it continues developing these issues. I have some memories of Timur helping Sinan with new problems with Demir, and am under the impression that Timur gives up upon Mine after realizing she is still really in love with Sinan. I think this is a problem with Netflix's getting distribution rights, and not having the whole production available.

    By the way, I agree with you that Sinan shows the most honest, innocent love, but you consider this to be immature love. Timur's love is controlling, egocentric, and manipulative. I would not consider this to be mature love... I would not even consider it to be love at all! For Timur life itself is just a game of probabilities! He uses dice to resolve on highly important issues in his life and others. Disgusting!!!

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    1. Well said. I am older myself and I did NOT find anything attractive about Timur. His love was all about power and control down to his daughter and housemaid. I just do not understand how Mine, after loving Sinan for so long and having his child could suddenly be all in love with Timur. If she loved her son the way she said she did and showed, then she and Timur too would see how selfish they were being towards Sinan wanting his son in his life. I totally loved all the steps he made towards claiming his son. If there was ever a character who for me was PERFECT, it would be Sinan. The actor himself was superb. Each and every actor was wonderful except for Erdal. What an absolute idiot and a waste of screen time. He brought nothing to the story whatsoever in my mind. It's as if he was used as a filler between scenes with other characters. His whole instance that he was having a son and why was just beyond annoying. The screen could have been filled with more Sinan and even Deniz and Merve as minor characters. So much more enjoyable.

      In any event, it is extremely disappointing that there is no proper ending to this otherwise outstanding series. I will just write my own in which Sinan recovers and reunites with Mine and his son and have all the happiness that he so richly deserves. Timur can just disappear into the mountains for all I care.

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    2. Well said, what does a grown man want with a 17 year old anyway. He is old enough to be her dad. Yuck!

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    3. ABOULUTELY AGREE. NO ONE MENTIONS THE YOUNG BOY WHO ISA TERRIFIC ACTOR AND i THINK i HAVE SEEN HIM IN LATER PRODUCTIONS WHERE HE IS OUTATANDING AND SO BEAUTIFUL.MERVE WAS A VERY FINE ACTESS...ONE HATED HER AND THEN LOVED HER..BUT THE FATHER WAS QUITE WEIRD IN A WAY..SLEEPING WITH HIS TEENAGE DAUGHTER????, MARRYING A 17 YEAR OLD???? MARRYING AFTER EVERY LOSS WITH INCREASINGLY LARGER DIAMONDS..HIS NEED TO CONTROL AND INTIMIDATE.AND ALSO HIS PASSIONATE KISSES ON THE FOREHEAD..WHAT WAS THAT ALL ABOUT? TO ME HE WAS AN UNHEALTHY MAN IN SOME WAYS...WOULD NOT TRUST HIM. ...SCHEMING REALLY. TOTALLY GOOD ACTING EXCEPT FOR THE OVERACTING AND NONSENCE OF THE YOUNG SON AND HIS BRIDE. sINAN REALLY TRIED TO BE A GOOD FATHER BUT REALLY HAD TOO MUCH OF AN EMOTIONAL BURDEN...GOOD ACTOR. I FELT I SAW A BIT TOO MUCH OF MINE'S DISPASSIONATE FACE...SHE NEEDS MORE EXPERIENCED, i FEEL FOR FUTURE ROLES BUT IT IS TRUE IN SOME SHOTS SHE IS REALLY BEAUTIFUL...PHOTOGENIC. I FEEL TODAY THAT I AM GOING TO WONDER WHAT HAPPENED TO THOSE PEOPLE...SOMEWHERE IN THE BACK OF MY MIND I RECALL MORE SCENES...WHO SHOT SINAN AND ON AND ON. i WOULD NOT BE HAPPY UNTIL THE YOUNG FAMILY OF THREE WERE TOGETHER ANS SMILING. I HAVE WRITTEN NETFLIX AND ASKED THEM NOT TO BUY AN FILMS IN THE FUTURE THAT WERE NOT COMPLETE. IT IS NOT FAIR TO US, THE VIEWERS AND VERY FRUSTRATING. i LOVE TURKISH FILMS AND TURKEY. HOPE THEY CONTINUE TO MAKE FILMS OF HIGH QUALITY. ...KENAN I. IS MY FAVORITE ACTOR...
      ps MAYBE THEY COULD HAVE ADDED A FEW SCENES IF THEY HAD HAD SOME KISSING...AFTER ALL WITH THAT SHE COULD HAVE MADE UP HER MIND MORE QUICKLY INSTEAD OF STARING INTO SPACE. A LOT OF WASTED TIME IN THIS FILM JUST STARING....WHATEVER PEOPLE SAY, I DID LIKE SINAN AND FELT TIMUR NEEDED A GOOD SHAVE..HE WOULD MAKE ANY WOMAN'S FACE RED AND IRRITATED. ahh MAYBE THAT IS WHY THERE WAS NO KISSING :)

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    4. I watch the series and i must agree with the unknown who descriped turin correctly too possessive who followed merve everywhere she went .he knew taht she loved sinan who is the father of their son and was deeply inlove with Mine and she was alo in love with sinan .the parents played a role as well .
      quite frankly i was very disappointed that she gave up sinsan for turin !!i was deeply saddened that he died at the end
      what puzzled me where did teh wife came frrom at the end

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    5. How I wish for A Season 2 to get Answers

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  8. I watched this series three times. I hope there will be Season 2. Who shot Sinan, and who is the mother?

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    1. Guess we will never know since there is no season 2. Netflix doesn’t have a contract for Season 2 for most Turkish shows and it is very disappointing to say to the end and left on a cliff.

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    2. I think Timur had Derin shoot Sinan to end hassles over the child.

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  9. So sad there is no season two!! Loved this show but has left me with so many gaps! Did Sinan live after he is shot? Did Mine and Timur get married? Who is Merves mother and why she appears now? Please make season two!!!

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  10. I'm so sad that there was no second season, It was a god production. I looked at the last episode again and it looks like Sinan was shot by crazy Darien, you see a woman in high heels walking away. Also looks like they did not get married we don't see Timur saying Yes. The plots were well done but I could do without the crazy irritating brother. He's a total annoyance and took up too much screen time. I loved, loved, loved the young actor who played Hassan, what a cutie.

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    1. I thought the hand holding the gun looked masculine. Maybe it was Memo? The choices are Timur, Memo, Derin, and his father, as far as we know. Why was Memo in Mime's house during her bridal party? The way Sinan said "what are you doing here?" made me think it wasn't his dad or Derin as he didn't sound as hostile as I'd have expected if it had been.

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    2. Memo was the one who shot him

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    3. I would add Emine to the suspect list...she felt that Mine ruined her life and snared his dad out of hatred for Sinan and she was also not in the scenes while Timur was also gone.

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    4. My money is on Timur because as "Unknown" pointed out, Sinan's response was more of surprise than of anger which is what he would have shown if it were his father, Derin or the little girl's uncle. He knew that Timur and Mine were getting married that night which is why I believe he was so surprised and then shocked when he saw the gun. I believe that Timur totally has the capability to commit murder in order to make sure he has Mine undisturbed after getting married. For Derin, she would not kill Sinan because she would want him to suffer which is what she said to him when she called after her escape. Killing Sinan would be too quick. She enjoys the thrill of the hunt and torture, not the kill. Not her style. I think that the girls uncle and Memo were just used as a distraction to have the viewer wonder who shot Sinan. Just my thoughts.

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  11. Where did Timur disappear for half an hour during the wedding? Did he shoot Sinan? Or it could have been Derin whose legs we see with the high heels. But the legs were probably meant to be of Merve's mother back from the dead. Also it was probably not Derin, as the gun that was shown had a man's hand holding it. It could have been the rough uncle of the sweet little girl whom Sinan was sheltering along with the young mother.
    And what was the bloke Memo up to? Uff, so many questions all left unanswered.....not fair, where such excellent acting on everyone's part got us hooked. I also wondered why Funda's mother completely disappeared?! Come on, give some answers - bring on Season 2 quickly. Or is this something we just have to swallow as an unfinished story? No please!! I agree also with Rosangelly that Sinan's was the purest most mature love. I stopped liking the character of Timur and even felt upset at Mine - how could her big love change?? How interesting this drama was. Emine's acting is just superb.

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    1. Jungkook I agree, and what was with all her getting drunk with Timur as if that was the only way for her to fall for him again...and I think season 2 would have Sinan recover..and Clptrnftti Eq, I agree, Timur didn't show a character that made me want him for Mine, he was cold most of the time and could have partnered with Derin again against Sinan, but but more than likely it was Yasmina's uncle. And Emine was outstanding and creepy and she could have shot Sinan for all we know since the last scene of her had that eyebrow raised like she was not at all a dopey sad person but a true psychopath.

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    2. Emine's acting was superb! Her acting really made me dislike her. It would've been nice to a happy ending for all. I was rooting for Timur to go to Germany and stay out or Mine's life. Timur was so selfish he didn't care about anyone, but himself.

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    3. Have to agree. Superb acting and well directed plot. The Turks are Very talented actors but so disappointing the way Netflix only offers one season on most shows. Even the Last Kingdom. Maybe I will spend my time watching from Zulu or Amazon

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    4. This series captivated my ♥️. Mine belonged with Sinan. That poor guy loved her to insanity. I think its totally unacceptable that a series has so many cliff hangers- who killed Sinan (suspicion points to the uncle of the little girl) but who knows?
      Where did Timur go? Did he meet his ex and encourage her to appear to teach Mine a lesson? What’s the mother’s response to the proposal? One thing I have decided I will not watch any more shows made in Turkey. Whatever the reason for ending it, is not acceptable.

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  12. It is inexcusable that the show ended in such a manner! While the viewer based rating system is no news for televisions everywhere, with Turkey being no exception, I still think the ending was incomplete and even offensive to the viewer who stayed with the show until the end. If the ratings dictated if there will be a second season or not, this decision shouldn't have come abruptly therefore a better final episode should have been created to tie all ends. The last episode was an opening for a second eason that will never come! Nobody from the production team new it will end?!

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  13. I am in tears! Just finished episode 79 and am so devastated that there is no season 2. How can the show end like this. I think Sinan had the most mature and beautiful love for Mine and Mine was a fool to leave him for Timur who was controlling and took advantage of a young girl who was naive and vulnerable. Sinan should have ended up with Mine they suffered so much. So sad to see Sinan shot and pissed off at this abrupt ending. I’m thinking it was Derrin or his father who shot him. Emine’s Acting was incredible- the story line so moving. Loved the little boy who played Hassan he was adorable.
    Im still so upset at this abrupt ending which was no ending. Who was Merves mom? We never even saw her. Where did Timur go for that hour?

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    1. No way! Sinan was so immature and annoying!! Mine outgrew him and needed a mature type of love. Timur represented exactly that, so it makes sense that she gravitated more towards him in the end. As well as thinking about the attachment her son had to him. How do you ignore that?! I think she made the right choice.

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    2. Yes sinan is still living in the past..while timur is so in love with mine that he has to do everything in his power to protect her for doing the same mistake.....

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    3. Sinan's love is pure' Mine is immature and silly. Sinan suffering was caused by almost everyone- his father for separating them, his mom for not telling him about his son/ Mine for giving his child to Timur/ Timur was harsh and unfair to Sinan at so many different levels/ Emine for her deception- I could go on. How could she truly love Sinan and not be sympathetic to his suffering.

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  14. I just finished the 79 episodes on Netflix and could not be any more disturbed!! I wasted all that time to have this abrupt incomplete ending Wth!

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    1. I felt the same way... how disappointing that they never did a Season 2 or at least finished Season 1 with a complete ending... It made me so angry.. I called Netflix.. LOL not realizing that they never made a Season 2.

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    2. Same here, although need to admit that if it is going to happen same as Intersection , which had a second season non-sense, prefer then leave it to my imagination. But I really enjoyed watching the girl I loved totally thinking 79 was last....

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    3. I WANT SEASON 2 PLEASE, ESPERO MUCHO TIEMPO Y NADA ,POR FAVOR SOMOS MUCHOS LOS QUE VEMOS LAS SERIALES TURKAS Y NUNCAN PONEN LAS SEGUNDAS PARTES 😭😭

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    4. I have watched season one three times just to see Woodland email and Gurslan together they make an absolute couple for shows

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    5. Yes A great disappointment to view the last episode. It was like the pages of a good book were torn out. Why can’t we have an ending? I loved all the actors and thought Erdel played the best comic role of his
      life. All Beautiful people

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    6. Totally sucks,,,,, need next season soon

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  15. I loved this series but I like everyone else want to see the next season .Why have they left it incomplete with so many questions.Plz plz Netflix finance the next season of this hugely popular series.

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  16. If there is no Season 2 they should release the screen play for viewers to see the ending. The cast of actors were amazing.I especially think the little boy Hassan was an remarkable actor. I guess everyone has a different perspective on who Mine should be with. I likes she stayed with Timur. It showed that she advanced from a younger love to a mature one. Although Timur had some questionable moments he let her be and set her free. She came back to him because she realized she loved him. I saw Sinan as eratic and immature.i think Timur ex wife left him and he went to confront her that night. But I think that the one that shot Sinan was his own father. He was crazy and warned Sinan he'd regret it. I guess we can make up our own ending. Love watching the Turkish films.

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  17. So sad no season 2. Poor Sinan I think it was either his Father or Derin. Did he live? Will Emine jump in the pool? Does Timur still love his wife? Will him story be she was list and she found him like Sinan and Mine? So many questions please have a heart and make season 2!

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  18. I am missing the show already, would be nice if season 2 would be available. however, still enjoyed, cried, laughed, cried. I went through every emotion, especially with Timur and Sinan and their heartbreak over Mine. for my part, loved the way she realized she loved Timur and his understated joy when she came to him! stupid ex girlfriend interrupting them when they would finally consummate!! thought Mine's playfulness & flirtatiousness with Timur fun and wanted more! oh now I have different expectations of a man!

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  19. I was puzzled at that end! That's not even an end! I think that Sinan was shot by Derin, she was going to get revenge from him. Another Turkish disappointment for me! :(

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  20. this is the 2nd turkish soap which had an abrupt ending. the first one was "Intersection".
    I'll have to really read reviews before i even watch the next one.

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  21. I guess since this was a 2011 production there definitely wont be another series. I am on episode 31, and love it so far. NJ- did you realize that Mine's little boy Hasan is also the same little boy in Intersection??

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  22. I just finished watching it and all i can say is im lost...wth!!!! I wanna cry!!!😢what a waste of time. I have mixed feelings right now😣🤔😢😖😲😡😠

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  23. This series was great but I do understand why they never made a second series. The plot was good, but it seemed like it was written by an amateur.

    The drama needed to be better. Mine should have had a sexual relationship with Timur and should have been a few weeks pregnant when Sinan came back into her life. It would have made the love triangle much more emotional.
    Emine’s imaginary boyfriend Selim should have been introduced to us sooner so that “he” could have wreaked havoc.
    Funda’s mother had a love affair when she was younger and Bekir was her biological father, but nobody knew until Sinan found the secret information.
    Sinan was secretly adopted. He was the love child of Sebahat and her ex, Hasan.
    Derin was Timur’s ex-wife’s daughter (with another man) and she was the only person that knew her mom is alive.
    Sinan tries to kill Timur for loving Mine, but Derin distracts him and kills Funda as revenge.
    Mine goes back and forth.
    And the ending as it is, she chooses Timur and his ex shows up at the wedding.

    I wonder if they can make a spin-off.

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    1. I think the wires were crossed too many times in your version. But FanFic would have a field day with this story - I can immediately imagine the plot!

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    2. What an imagination you have. :) I am glad that Mine never had a sexual relationship with Timur. I think I would have stopped watching before the end if she did. As it stands, in my mind, I can still imagine her getting back with Sinan which is the only SHIP I will sail!! :)

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    3. I had an admiration for TIMUR. (look wise). He looked like a protector and was romantic. But, the episodes had some unnecessary stuff, which could have been chopped off. Anyway, I hope that they can make season 2 with a shorter number of episodes. Does anyone watch Pakistani dramas? They are fabulous.

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  24. Also, Sinan should have been played by a different actor. He is not handsome enough for that role. A similiar movie, Al Yazmalim, the boyfriend was Seckin Ozdemin. His charming and dreamy looks made the movie better.

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    1. Enter the timeframe and you will see that he is the Turkish Rob Pattinson and Mine is the Turkish K Stew. The Twilight look was very 'in' at the time, but his styling, the hair, the omg.... let's not go further, I'm very, very disappointed

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    2. And he wasn't a good actor at that. He kept looking to the side to be reminded of the lines. Happened over and over.

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    3. What??? That's interesting that beauty really is in the eye of the beholder. I thought the actor who played Sinan was absolutely handsome and took my breath away each time he came on screen. I loved watching just before I went to sleep and having his face the last one I saw before sleep. I also thought his acting was very good, so for me, I have no complaints on that.

      I have only recently discovered Turkish dramas and I am completely in love with them. All that I have watched so far (except for one) have had amazing acting and the lead men have all been extremely handsome and the women beautiful. I've even learned some Turkish words. :)

      I didn't attribute his side looks to checking for lines. I just took it be his own acting style. It did not distract for me. I think he was perfect in the role.

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    4. Sinan looked like he had an alien head. Especially, when he was shot in the street dying, lol!

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  25. First of all, if it is an incomplete series with no book to indicate to the viewers what happened in the unpublished episodes, then Netflix should scrap it. It is a waste of time. Secondly, when you watch for 79 very slow episodes with an incredible amount of flashbacks, romantic dreaming, etc, you would like to get to the point at some stage. I can literally break something right now. I mean... I know we are talking Turkish drama which is a bit less carnal than Western TV shows, but not even ONE decent kiss?????? Hell... I've lived to be 55 and not see these two kiss.... says a lot about my life with Netflix.... DO NOT WATCH THIS DAMN SHOW!! It's frustrating, it's disappointing and it is very slow. I thought at least see the damn wedding, see the baby (boy or girl from Funda and Erdal) being born, see where Papa and Mama go.... but nah, we have to see Emine's fake lover instead. I could streamline this show in a very short, very nail biting 5 episode drama - just give me the job.

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    1. Just want to say I loved your comment. I'm 57 and also was disappointed there wasn't a bit more affection between Timur and Mine. The chemistry was palpable. Couldn't stand Sinan and he gave me the creeps when they were reunited. Such a child. I rolled my eyes at his constant need to talk to or see her. Might be my age, I admit.

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    2. I found Timur very creepy and I cringed every time he came near Mine, so I for one was very happy to not see any physicality between the two. I do admit missing see a good kiss every now and again as I am used to American stuff but I am beginning to get used to and enjoy the simplicity of that in Turkish/Egyptian dramas.

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  26. So disappointed with the 79th episode being the end of this show.At least show us what happened to the main characters in still pictures for closure. But I think I will write my own ending for all the characters in 1 piece of paper, then read it before going to bed 1 night and that will be the end of my disappointment...

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    1. I so agree. At least tell us what happen.

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    2. That's exactly what I did. Write my own ending in my head.

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  27. I'm so mad that there is NO season 2! Why would netflix show this series knowing that it would never satisfy their audience due to the show ending! In fact it left me with lots of questions instead such as who killed Sinan? Where's funda's mom, where did Timur go during his wedding? What's Memo up to? Why is Derin n Emine still alive- kill them instead! Lol
    Ugh so disappointing! Don't watch

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    1. I just saw it and I’m �� with all your comments, disillusioned

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  28. I am really very disappointed, I think I have been cheated. Netflix should inform us that the series we are watching will cease without having an end. then it will be up to us whether to watch it or not

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    1. it has ended. 79 was the last episode created.

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    2. Commenter meant without everything tied up nicely with a bow. I agree, I'm in mourning the day after I finished it.

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    3. I was in mourning also! Netflix should be ashamed to do this to their viewer's!

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  29. Can't believe there is a place I can comment in ENGLISH!!! YAY! YAY!!! I just loved this show. My favorite out of the 6 or so I've seen on Netflix. I love love love, Erdal and Funda.

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    1. Me too! Erdal and Funda were the BEST! And the most normal thinking characters in the entire show, lol!!

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    2. Ird Dale was the funniest

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  30. Just finished episode 79, and like everyone else,I have so many questions. Turkish dramas do end abruptly. Lovebird and Kurt Seyit very Sura left me wanting more too. But I'm glad that I watched them. But come on...Give us a Season 2!

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    1. Lovebird was extremely disappointing in the end too. UGGGG!!

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    2. I can’t seem to get through this one....so thanks for letting me know that the end is disappointing :(

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  31. I love Turkish serials but the ending of most of them is very disappointing. For example The girl that i loved, lovebirds kept one guessing. Is there a second season? At least tell us who killed Sinan in The girl that I loved and who is Timurs first wife?

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  32. I really enjoyed this Turkish drama. Thanks for the subtitles!!! I want to think that Timur shot my favorite actor Sinan. And why the woman in heels look like Derin? Timur is too full of himself. He is very possessive and obsessed with young Mine. And that he is my son and what is he doing with my son. He is just too old for Mine and Mine couldn't just played with Sinan's love like that. Sad episode 79 ended this way though. Please I want to see season 2!!!!😢😢

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    1. Mine OUTGREW Sinan! And Timur claiming Hasan as his son so much...uh, yeah...because he raised him for 3yrs! It would be weird if he had no attachment to him. Especially, because he loved his Mother so much. Emine’s love matured, and she needed a Man. Timur was that Man! Sinan was too much of a little boy.

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  33. I don’t think there will be season 2. Since it was film in 2011. So disappointed.

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  34. I bet the writers had to can it because of current politics...
    so if they can't ever do a season two, could they at least join us on the forum here and tell us all the answers to the questions we have posed here? Where were you guys going with this, and why on earth did Sinan's mom not have her cell phone and call for help? Had she smashed her iphone or what??? uff!! and thank you for not having her scream Sinan 10 times. I have to thank you that it wasn't that many. (I can't rewatch Subat because she kept screaming his name so many times....)

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  35. al igual q a todos , me quede esperando la temporada dos . me comi una novela con un final inconcluso ? q horror !

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  36. Just finished watching the last episode & was left with dozens of ending scenarios playing in my head. Let's talk about the characters, Timur isn't a nice guy; he's very manipulative, control freak, & won't hesitate to eliminate anyone who crosses his path. Besides, Timur bids recklessly on events & lives; also, he's way too old for Mine. Sinan is the most innocent character in the plot, but has a quick temper & lack maturity. Mine is vulnerable, confused & not always sure who she loves the most. Emine & Derin are simply psychos straight from Scream the movie. Erdul & Funda made me laugh, but it was too much after all. Love Kerem the journalist who I found very charming & his wife a smart woman.

    The plot was well-thought, but the brutal ending left the viewers with a lot of questions. From my own experience watching a lot of Turkish tv series & movies, I think the actors are really talented & the scenes from istanbul make the viewers wanting to visit this beautiful city.

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    1. Agreed with everything you wrote except I found Erdal and Funda to be very annoying and their acting did not come up to par with the others. Funda started off as an apparently intelligent young woman and I just could not see how any intelligent woman could fall for such a clownish boy like Erdal. I imagine that there characters were meant to bring some levity to the otherwise serious script but they, and in particular, Erdal, just came across as complete idiots.

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    2. Seriously? Do you take life that serious? I love that my Husband has a goofy type of personality because it makes me laugh. Erdal and Funda seemed like the most realistic and normal couple from the entire series. I loved them!

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  37. What a great story, enjoyed it tremendously until the end, episode 79 which was so dissapointing with no real ending and apparently no season 2.

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  38. Tienen que hacer obligatoriamente la temporada 2. La temporada 1 dejó situaciones inconclusas. Los televidentes están esperando
    la evolución de las situaciones en esa tan interesante, bella serie con participación de excelentes actores, bella música.
    No dejen al televidente desilusionado, por favor!!!
    Cristina.

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  39. I just finished watching it and am so disappointed it stopped at episode 79. There are so many questions to be answered. Could somebody advised me when season 2 will be released.. thanks

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  41. This is a show that could have been excellent but...the main character,Mine, is not impressive. She is not attractive and her voice has no vibration. She meows, she doesn't speak. Mediocre acting compared to her older sister, Emine who is an excellent actress.Otherwise all other characters very well portrayed and interpreted.But the plot itself has may flaws. Funda/Erdal are funny but their lives are are going nowhere. The little kid is way too spoiled, all the adults around him execute every single wish he has even in the middle of the night. Sinan and Mina are weak and immature. Timur, manipulative and rude, he knows everything. I loved Merve. The aunt started off well but fell for a guy who is inferior to her. Emine haunts everyone's life and the whole society can't control her tantrums. Why did they kill Sinan in the end and why did Timur's wife appeared on the last minute of a 79 episodes show reversing everything that happened from the beginning??? Not well! Waste of time!

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  42. Mine has become a woman. Sinan is still a kid. Timur at least is a man. A rich man. And powerful. So her choice is clear. Actually from the minute Mine walked into Timur's luxurious house in the very beginning, I was sure she was going to choose him if ever Sinan came back. Maybe I'm cynical.

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    1. I agree! She outgrew Sinan. She became a mature Woman when she became a Mother and therefore desired a Man (Timur). Sinan was so immature and annoying! He just didn’t get it. I too would’ve chose Timur :)

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  43. Shame on you Netflix for buying a series without an ending. So unfair to your viewers, I feel like boycotting all Turkish shows in the future. Seeing it was made in 2011 surely you knew when you bought the series that it didn’t have an ending!!!

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  44. I loved this show! I hope they will make a season 2.

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  45. Watched all the episodes, spent so many hours on this and finally got to episode 70 and oh boy! was I disappointed with such an abrupt ending. So many unanswered questions, who shot Sinan? Who is Timur's wife, Did the dad & mum get back together. I've become so hooked on these Turkish dramas, but the endings leaves much to be desired. Intersection, Lovebird, Ezel.

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    1. You can continue Ezel on YouTube. And I gave up on Intersection when I found out that the main female character was killed. Lovebird...I just can’t seem to get though, lol!

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  46. Like everyone else, I struggled through all 79 shows of Season 1, never thinking that this might be all there is. I have no idea who appeared at the wedding show that left us stunned with no 2nd Season. That is really bad on Netflix's part to not warn the viewers about that. Kurt Sayet ve Sura was really a spectacular Turkish series that continued to the very end, based on true people who went through the Russian Revolution. Kevanic Talitug is not only a marvelous actor but far more handsome than most men in American movies. If I keep watching these Turkish shows I'll be speaking their language soon !! Obviously noone 'in charge' reads or cares about viewers' requests.

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  47. Just finished. I love it just how it is. Season 2 is in me. So much drama... Love is painful.
    Beautiful acting. Emine part the best.
    Mine, not for Timur not for sinan. I love the silliness of mine brother.
    Timur is sick and the ex wife is like him,a psychopath.. Love is unreal.the more someone love you the greatest pain you will encounter ( broken heart in small parts) psychopath are very , very charming and sweet people.. believe me!!

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  48. Netflix has to stop placing series that do not have an end. It is really disappointing. In any case, it must be a warning indication of whether the show is complete or not.

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  49. Just finished this series and I loved it! Yes, disappointed that it ended on a cliff hanger, but totally get why it went the route it did. Many are wanting Mine with Sinan, but I have to strongly disagree. Their love was young love that was just not meant to last. I feel that when Mine had Hasan and built a life with Timur for those 3yrs, SHE grew up A LOT. She had to. Whereas Sinan remained the love struck kid infatuated with a romantic dream. Mine was stuck there too and why she couldn’t accept Timur, BUT she knew well enough that her sons well being was top priority. She was right in wanting to keep things as normal as possible for Hassan. And Sinan being so selfish and impatient WAS ANNOYING! I can see why she was turned off by his selfish and childish behavior. SHE OUTGREW him and that’s the bottom line! She always appreciated everything that Timur did for her, that then turned into a mature type of love. She matured herself and realized her priorities. Some Women love the security of an older Man, so I kinda get why she gravitated towards him in the end. Sinan was a little boy unable to face REAL LIFE. And Timur was a Man that would give her and her son, love, security and a mature type of love. I don’t see anything wrong with that. Was Timur over powering sometimes? Evet! But in the end it was because he was so in love with her. I too saw it as creepy, but then I appreciated everything he did for her. Call me crazy, but at 43yrs of age and all the dating I’ve done, as well as 2 marriages...I wouldn’t mind having a Timur to sometimes just take over! I’m a strong Woman, but sometimes it’s exhausting when you don’t have a strong Man by your side. With that being said, even though it didn’t end probably...I’m glad she chose Timur in the end. Sinan was annoying, lol!

    Oh, and also have to mention that my all time favorite Turkish couple out of all the Turkish series I have seen (a lot of them), ERDAL AND FUNDA ARE THE BEST!! Kept me laughing so much!!! I almost wish they were a real couple, lol!!

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  50. I am watching this for the first time, and I am already disappointed after reading comments, that this series either ended abruptly, or not the way that we would have liked it to end. After so much anticipation, why do movies and series fail us in the end? Now, I am undecided whether I should continue watching the remainder of the episodes. Sad, about sinan and Mine. Not having the son brought up together. Also, want to comment that this drama should have ended in one season, with only 30 episodes or less.

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  51. I am also so disappointed.... that I have a stomach ache.... disgust by the ending after watching the crucifixion the lover boy Sinan and his endurance I was very sure that the writer would let the good wins the evil, the light eliminates darkness, and pure innocent love would overcome any sceme or walls of any kind, but the writer destroy a a masterpiece he build in 75 episodes to ruin his work in the last episodes. The writer or was switched, or died and another writer substituted him writing the finale, or the producers switched this delioguinal ending on purpose for a reason unknown, or some hidden hands missed with story... I still can't believe that I wasted so much energy to watch 79 ep. To have this awful finale... If Mine married Sinan and showed us them in 20 or 40 or 60 years from now... would be a wet dream come true and you would love Arslan Gulcan forever, I loved her innocence but to have chosen Timor in the end is a disgrace for the intelligence of the romantic series fans.... is not just disappointing... it's a SIN to have this finale and to ruin 75 intense episodes watching Gulcan Arslan and falling in love with her... too.

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  52. Very disappointing ending . Loved Timor with Mine . She outgrew Sinan he was to Imatur for her . I’m sick to my stomach that I did not see if Timor and Mine finally got Merried. Would love to see Season two

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  53. Pathetic ending. Fantastic acting by all. Clearly the writers didnt know how to end the story. I So wanted a happy ending for sinan. I Feel cheated of a realistic ending.

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  54. Actually i tried to delete my post but cant. So to properly explain. I thought the series was amazing, with fantastic acting throughout. I so wanted all the good people in the story to find happiness, the elders, mum and dad, Turan reunited. Most of all i wanted to see sinan happy and then he was shot. Was ge killed? He wasnt dead. Who shot him. So many questions left unanswered. After watching 79 episodes with no clear ending, and no season 2, i do feel disapoointed. Maybe one day season 2 will appear. Could sinans own dad have shot him?

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  55. I loved reading everyone's posts about the show. After finishing the 79th episode, I went online desperately searching for answers about an ending. This is by far my favorite site because I could finally quit searching and felt better learning that I'm not the only one left disappointed. They could've completed the show by spending far less time on flashbacks of the same scenes. As devastated as I am, it was a great series we all wanted to see through but were not able to. So many story lines left unanswered!

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  56. same here..i am from Malaysia..love to watching Turk drama series and movie....i am dispointed too...why the drama series always cliffhangers??.. it is same goes to drama series “lovebird” kamran & feride?...i hope these two drama series is not ending yet!!...

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  57. I found Timur to be unethical and devious. He said he loved Mine but if you truly love someone you will want them to be happy you would not destroy the man she loves and the real father. Too much deceit and no happy ending with two people who were innocent and deserved to be together

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  58. When I read how it is turning out I stopped watching at episode 41. For Mine to choose Timur that is too much for me. He was shrewd and did some horrible things. Why on earth would someone choose him over the person you loved i.e. Sinan who never abandoned her and who had a right to be a father to his own child. Excuses like Timur is a good father to Hasan please the boy was only two years old he would adjust and have two parents that love him not a father that is a lier and a manipulator. What about when he grows up and asks about his real father. Sorry I think the series took a turn for the worse and was very disappointed that they were not united and that Timur with all his deception won. That is why I stopped watching.

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  59. Just finished watching this series, loved it but only wish i could have seen this forum before starting, because i never would have started!!!!! I cannot believe there won't be anymore! i watch lots of Turkish movies and love them so think their film industry is great BUT how disappointing NO 2ND SERIES! How can you do this to us? I feel I've wasted hours and hours of my time and you have insulted your wonderful actors/actresses. It reminds me of 'who shot JR in the 80's but at least we eventually found out. surely someone can write a script for a final movie to complete this series? Netflix is also in the wrong for taking on unfinished material.
    I must add That Seyit and Sura is a fabulous production which prompted me to watch more Turkish films. i hope there will be a 2nd series? but at least there was some closure at the end of the first. Thank you for that.

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  60. I loved all the music played in this series. does anyone know if one can by a complete sound track CD? Ive looked on spotify, there is only the opening song.

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  61. Please let there be a season 2 .l want Sinan to survive and have a relation ship with his son and hopefully Mine will fall in love with him again . I am for young love . I do like Timur but they haven't given Sinan a chance to prove himself. Please let there be a season 2 who shot Sinan and who is Timur's wife?

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  62. Can you purchase dvd of this series?

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  63. Es una deslealtad tanto de Netflix como de quien vendió la primer temporada. Si no existió la segunda temporada por cualquier motivo entonces no debieron vender la primera.

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